CPR Playfield Impact on Price?

[CJBob]

If there is a new CPR playfield for a machine, do you think it increases the value of existing machines, decreases it, or has no affect?

I see there is a new playfield coming for Bally Playboy and I'm wondering if this would impact demand at all for the existing Playboy machines:

http://www.classicplayfields.com/order.html

 

[Vengeance]

Depends.

How nice is the original pf compared to a new one.

If you have a nice OG PF with very little to no wear a CPR isn't going to do much for you.

But if you have a PF worn to the wood, you will get back almost all the value of the purchase of the CPR PF.

 

[DRANO]

Your current playboy is more than acceptable from what I recall. I don't see the value of the machine spiking by $750 USD by adding a CPR.
Adam is bang on. A worn playfield will devalue your game so there is a much larger value gap to bridge with a new repro.

I would much rather buy a machine that has a beat to hell playfield for a great price and then put the money I saved into new playfields, plastics, glass... whatever it may need.

The problem is when you have a machine that is nice, or at least acceptable. The value on that pin is already pretty good. making up that 10-15% difference in quality is much more costly at that point and very hard to recoup. That's why you see a lot of guys trying to sell very expensive machines after having sunk a lot of $$$ into them.

 

[Menace]

I think the question Bob is asking is for games without a repro PF available at all, do you find the overall market value of these games less than their brethren with repro PF's available?

D

 

[Vengeance]

I think the question Bob is asking is for games without a repro PF available at all, do you find the overall market value of these games less than their brethren with repro PF's available?

D

It's not apples to apples.

If you have a clear coated original PF in as perfect a shape as a CPR then the answer is pretty clear, no value will come from putting a CPR in.

If you have a original PF un-clear coated but in almost perfect shape, depending on the collector maybe the prices changes by $100 in one way or the other to take into account the clear coat.

If your PF is beat to shit with wood everywhere you'll get good value out of putting in a CPR.

Regardless of the above, you'll never see the money for the work hours from the swap so if your putting in a CPR to try and make money no matter what you are going to end up on the losing end.

 

[Menace]

I don't think Bob is asking a question about the value of a game with or without a repro PF installed or an original that has been cleared. I think he's asking do games that do not have repro PF's available suffer a lower market value than those games that do have repro PF's available? So apples to apples here... Game "A" with an original PF that is in avereage condition that doesn't have any repro PF available vs game "B" with an original PF that is in avereage condition that does have a repro PF available from the usual suppliers. (and both games are relatively equal in terms of popularity/rules etc so they would be considered to be in the same tier to collectors)

I think Bob is just interested to see if the availability of repro parts (specifically PF's in this case) has any sort of affect on the market value of the base game.

D

 

[Vengeance]

I don't think Bob is asking a question about the value of a game with or without a repro PF installed or an original that has been cleared. I think he's asking do games that do not have repro PF's available suffer a lower market value than those games that do have repro PF's available? So apples to apples here... Game "A" with an original PF that is in avereage condition that doesn't have any repro PF available vs game "B" with an original PF that is in avereage condition that does have a repro PF available from the usual suppliers. (and both games are relatively equal in terms of popularity/rules etc so they would be considered to be in the same tier to collectors)

I think Bob is just interested to see if the availability of repro parts (specifically PF's in this case) has any sort of affect on the market value of the base game.

D

IMO doubtful, even if a repro ins't available you could pay someone to restore an original PF for almost the same price and end up with a similar product.

 

[DRANO]

I certainly would not undertake a CPR swap with the express purpose of making money. There are many easier ways to "gussy up" a machine if flipping is your game. I would reserve this level of work/expense for something I truly loved.

Personally, if I had two machines side by side and one had an original playfield in nice condition and the other had a CPR I would probably pay a little bit more for the CPR (assuming it's a quality repro) but that's because I will take playability over originality on most titles.
A good example is my Joker Poker. The original playfield was nice but it had some cupped inserts that would cause occasional erratic ball movement. I still put in a CPR and now it plays so much smoother and the overall playing experience is greatly improved.

If I was a purist and hard-core collector, I might prefer to keep the machine original out of some misguided sense of romance
It comes down to who's buying. Just as beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so the value of certain mods/upgrades is in the eye of the buyer and will fluctuate greatly according to his/her preferences. LEDs are a great example of this.

 

[BMHouze]

I would think the CPR would play faster and look a bit nicer with the lack of the mylar.
Naturally there will be some time to wait to install wgile you are curing any extra layers of clearcoat.

 

[WARLOCK]

Playability is "the" overriding factor me thinks.
I "LOVE" original. But, as Drano states, if it doesn't play as it should...

Change it up "playfield wise" to make her play as she should, only if it is a 'keeper'.

 

[Fifty]

I'm not a seasoned veteran like the guys above me so consider this a layman's perspective. CPR has no effect. If I'm looking for a pin it doesn't matter to me if there are repro parts or CPR playfields available for it. If the PF is down to the wood then I'm more likely to purchase a CPR playfield and put one in, but it doesn't change my mind when it comes to buying a machine and certainly wouldn't increase the price in any way.

 

[WARLOCK]

OK gang, each to his/her own. (buyer prerogative)
Drano and I have been discussing a certain title tonight.
Repro's.: nice cab.; nice bg.; nice pf.; nice pkg.; it all matters.
So does "budget" however; and these choices are up to the buyer.

 

[WARLOCK]

I guess my post before Tim's should say "price dependent". (If you want to)
Only if you can afford it. Great hobby, but "play within" yours means + desires.

Cheers. Salut.