This machine is well kept for and has no fading on cabinet or playfueld. I would say playfueld is 10 outta 10. Everything is working fine and has no issues. Was recently shopped out by a technician. Asking for $2350
FS HARLEM GLOBETROTTERS
- Thread starter Elias tzatzalis
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atariaction
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Interesting on how you educated me on the accurate price of WCS but post your HG for $2350 when the book value says $1075usd which is about $1300 CAN. Seems that you can price police others but not yourself. GLWS
SuperPinball
Active Member
Mikey don't like price police
. I'll give ya the pinside estimated price for your WCS.Globetrotters is a fun game, GLWS
I'm not here to cause ruckus...lol
It's a pin..
U buy . U sell. Like a house, car anything in life bro, both parties look to extract best value...
So be cool and enjoy your life
It's a pin..
U buy . U sell. Like a house, car anything in life bro, both parties look to extract best value...
So be cool and enjoy your life
atariaction
Well-Known Member
Mikey don't like price police
Globetrotters is a fun game, GLWS
Haha I don't care about price police. Was just making a point about hypocrisy. (as I go to pinside to look up WPC prices
)
Vengeance
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I'd argue there is more value here on this game then the WCS
This HG seems to be in exceptional shape, cabinet looks really nice, no wear on any of the holes, artwork is all in tack, correct spinners, looks recently shopped. the BG would be the only issue as I can see some paint missing, but still looks like an above average machine, hence an above average price.
Where as the WCS is average at best, from the pictures I can see chipping and wear on the Final Draw hole as well as the saucer at the top for the goal and the free kick saucers. Also looks like inlane wear at the left ramp returns and a huge chunk missing from the front of the cabinet, I'd bet good money there are cracks at the left ramp entrance. Sitting right beside that window, cabinet fade doesn't seem out of the question. On top of all that, the ball trail all over the inalnes and ramps indicates a shop job is going to be necessary. But yet it commands an above average price....
End of the day people are going to buy what they want, but if they asked me I'd say if you could get this HG for $1800 - $2000 you'd be doing ok as it's in really nice shape. But that WCS, I'd say if they paid a cent above $3K they would have just been ripped off...
This HG seems to be in exceptional shape, cabinet looks really nice, no wear on any of the holes, artwork is all in tack, correct spinners, looks recently shopped. the BG would be the only issue as I can see some paint missing, but still looks like an above average machine, hence an above average price.
Where as the WCS is average at best, from the pictures I can see chipping and wear on the Final Draw hole as well as the saucer at the top for the goal and the free kick saucers. Also looks like inlane wear at the left ramp returns and a huge chunk missing from the front of the cabinet, I'd bet good money there are cracks at the left ramp entrance. Sitting right beside that window, cabinet fade doesn't seem out of the question. On top of all that, the ball trail all over the inalnes and ramps indicates a shop job is going to be necessary. But yet it commands an above average price....
End of the day people are going to buy what they want, but if they asked me I'd say if you could get this HG for $1800 - $2000 you'd be doing ok as it's in really nice shape. But that WCS, I'd say if they paid a cent above $3K they would have just been ripped off...
atariaction
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Thanks for chiming in but my points in this thread are regarding hypocrisy and not to do with machine value. I found it funny how Elias pointed out I was posting above the book value on my friends game but then did the same shortly after for his game.
Vengeance
Well-Known Member
You don't see the hypocrisy in calling someone out over the price of a game where the condition accurately reflects the price while at the same time selling a WCS where the condition doesn't accurately reflect the price?
Even if you just do the math, $2300 asking is only 14% over what the game should be priced at, well within the realm of what could be easily negotiated.
Where as WCS 29% over what would be an accurate price for the machine IMO.
You started the conversation, you had the high road until you decided to try and do what Elias did in your ad. The difference here being HG is priced much better than WCS so your claims of hypocrisy are unmerited.
You've made it clear in the past, you don't care about your prices, you are going to ask what you want to ask and fuck everyone else, and that is fine. But you can't crawl out of the mud, fling it around and say, "Look, Look AT THIS PRICE! HYPOCRISY! THIS JUSTIFIES EVERYTHING!" Especially when that price seems reasonable.
atariaction
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You are still missing the point entirely Becker. I don't care what he's asking for his machine and I am not arguing the value of it. This is not a pricing or value argument. The hypocrisy point is completely separate from anything to do with value or pricing but you are combining them. If someone tells you you shouldn't do something but then does it themself that is hypocrisy. In this case it relates to pinball pricing but it is not the issue whatsoever.
Vengeance
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No I'm not and to outline my point I've said why his machine is fair market value and yours isn't.
You saying it's Hypocrisy because he came into your thread and told you, your price was too high (which are apparently all deleted at this point it seems or I can't find them in the FS thread).
So you come into his thread and say hypocrisy. Which in turn means that he is pricing his machine too high.
My argument is that his machine isn't priced too high, that it is within fair market value, the the condition reflects the price, thus your claim of hypocrisy is not valid because Elias isn't complaining about your high prices and then pricing his machine above market value.
If this HG was asking priced at 3K he wouldn't have a leg to stand on but it's not. That would be the definition of hypocrisy, this is not.
atariaction
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The reason you didn't see the comments is because they were in a private message sent to myself.
If someone complains that your price is above the book value and then proceeds to price their machine above the book value than that is not practicing what one preaches. That was my point.
Your point may be valid if I was referencing the Becker value but am not.
If someone complains that your price is above the book value and then proceeds to price their machine above the book value than that is not practicing what one preaches. That was my point.
Your point may be valid if I was referencing the Becker value but am not.
BMHouze
Well-Known Member
I was informed that games featuring people of colour on the backglass art always seem to not get as high a price.
Just what I waa told.
Just what I waa told.
Mike, everybody knows your crap is overpriced. Finally somebody else who has the balls to speak about the truth of your sleaziness. Hail Vengeance!!!
SuperPinball
Active Member
atariaction
Well-Known Member
Ok Mike, you can rip me off, I'll give you $3000.01 for WCS.
I'm sure you'd even come up to $3100 then I can really screw you over!