FS "Not Mine" Pinball Machines For Sale

mwong168 · Jul 18, 2014

mwong168 said:
Diamond Lady - $2150 - Toronto
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-video-games-cons ... nFlag=true

Party Animal - $1750 - Toronto
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-video-games-cons ... nFlag=true

Special Forces - $1500 - Toronto
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-video-games-cons ... nFlag=true

Not that these are smoking deals but just in case someone was interested there is a back story to these 3 listings from the same seller. Read more about it here:

http://www.maaca.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16323

Would hate for someone to pay double or more then they have to and have some flipper profit.

brad808 · Jul 18, 2014

Re: "Not Mine" Pinball Machines For Sale

Seems like a ballsy move trying to flip games for a huge profit before you even have them.

frolic · Jul 18, 2014

Those games are going to find their market price eventually. The guy will succeed. So if it was a game I was interested I wouldn't let the back story stop me (unless they were stolen or something).

REVOLUTION · Jul 18, 2014

But to flip them before they're even paid for? That's a real douche move.. this guy is relying on the goodness of others to make a profit. Not cool, and happens WAY too often.

WARLOCK · Jul 18, 2014

WONG is a "beast of nature". (No doubt)
All pins find their price point. (In due time)
Selling pins before possession is truly "bad karma".

frolic · Jul 18, 2014

So organizing a container and collecting money on pins that have not arrived in the country is bad?

Dunno, of all the things to get upset about in my day to day life, someone making a buck ain't one of them. The market will decide what these machines are worth, they'll find their price point by someone.

g-man · Jul 18, 2014

I get Frolic's point ~ someone flipping pinball machines is not the end of the world. It's a classic first-world problem.

That said, my problem with it is that it makes it harder and harder for someone in the hobby to display true benevolence. Some people get a great deal for a game and want to pass that good deal onto someone else. But pin flippers steal that opportunity. They really do.

So it's not an abomination, but it is an affront to the purported goodwill of others.

P.S. With a container purchase, the end user is contracting the services of the organizer of the container and does so willingly and knowingly. With pin flippers, the end user has not knowingly contracted the services of this middle man. The pin flipper has inserted himself into the sequence. The market seems to not care, since a buyer will still be found at this higher price. The market is very forgiving, but just because the market deals seamlessly with this type of manipulation does not mean it is natural nor victimless. Rant over.

WARLOCK · Jul 18, 2014

The facts are this. (very simple)
Drano and I drove a long way for the last container "o" pins.
We said that "that was it". And it really was, so we are all done now.
I had "NO" pins on that train, have none, and good luck for the future.

WARLOCK · Jul 18, 2014

Container pin times are over.
I have never owned one, ever.
I helped friends procure pins, sure.
In the end, a waste of my time really.

For friends though?
No problem.

Moving on.

WARLOCK · Jul 18, 2014

When Frolic and G-man actually drive and go get a container of pins? (I'm in)
That will be the day gents fo sho. Go for it, like many of us have done so.

Otherwise, let it go and stop indicating you know more than
those of us that go and actually "do things" for the community.

That is all.

Cheers.

frolic · Jul 18, 2014

Scott, I'm not sure but you might have taken what I wrote directed at you. I have no idea if you've gotten container pins, I was speaking generally as an example of someone making money off pins they don't actually own. I was thinking specifically of those Italian pins that guy used to arrange. Was more pointing out that no one had a problem with that entrepreneurial endeavour. I don't have a problem with anyone making a buck with any if these examples. That's all I'm saying.

So, no disrespect intended there.

Ps: looking back, I see my response immediately followed yours so it could be taken as a direct response aimed at you. It wasn't. More just me bringing up an example for the discussion. Cool?

mwong168 · Jul 19, 2014

frolic said:
I was speaking generally as an example of someone making money off pins they don't actually own. I was thinking specifically of those Italian pins that guy used to arrange. Was more pointing out that no one had a problem with that entrepreneurial endeavour. I don't have a problem with anyone making a buck with any if these examples. That's all I'm saying.

frolic if you actually read or maybe you should go re-read the thread on in maaca it said:

I am brokering a deal for a friend selling his collection the buyer has not paid or picked up his machines and has already listed them on kijiji for almost double his purchasing price.

That is not quite the same as Gerry who arranges these container deals for everyone's benefit including himself whether it be profit or an entire game all paid for. Everyone who participated in this knows he is making something off all these games and fine with it because they are still getting a great deal their game(s). I can only imagine all the PMs, emails, phone calls Gerry has had to deal with to try and organize the entire deal and sure everyone is equally greatful for it.

This other guy on kijiji on the other hand is trying to make a quick buck without assuming any sort of risk with his own money. It looks like this guy is trying to make a quick flip to possibly fund a game that is currently on the market. I'm slowing putting all the dots together now and if you are reading this Simon please stop your non sense, jerking people around and uttering threats. I've dealt with this guy before and looks like nothing has changed at all.

WARLOCK said:
Otherwise, let it go and stop indicating you know more than
those of us that go and actually "do things" for the community.

Yeah what he said

g-man · Jul 19, 2014

WARLOCK said:
When Frolic and G-man actually drive and go get a container of pins? (I'm in)
That will be the day gents fo sho. Go for it, like many of us have done so.

Otherwise, let it go and stop indicating you know more than
those of us that go and actually "do things" for the community.

That is all.

Cheers.

First off, you should definitely re-read my post because there is NOTHING in there to suggest that brokering a container deal is unethical. It's actually quite the contrary. I am defending a container deal as something a buyer enters into willingly, as opposed to having to pay more for a machine simply because they were beat to the punch by someone who doesn't even want it ~ aside from making a profit.

I'm not sure how my post could have been misinterpreted. It is quite clear.

And BTW, I did lots of stuff for people in this hobby ~ most of it long before you were even here.

g-man · Jul 19, 2014

g-man said:
WARLOCK said:

When Frolic and G-man actually drive and go get a container of pins? (I'm in)
That will be the day gents fo sho. Go for it, like many of us have done so.

Otherwise, let it go and stop indicating you know more than
those of us that go and actually "do things" for the community.

That is all.

Cheers.

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First off, you should definitely re-read my post because there is NOTHING in there to suggest that brokering a container deal is unethical. It's actually quite the contrary. I am defending a container deal as something a buyer enters into willingly, as opposed to having to pay more for a machine simply because they were beat to the punch by someone who doesn't even want it ~ aside from making a profit.

I'm not sure how my post could have been misinterpreted. It is quite clear.

And BTW, I've done lots of stuff for people in this hobby ~ most of it long before you were even here. I just don't talk ( and talk ) about it.

REVOLUTION · Jul 19, 2014

Once again misinterpretation is the bane of the Internet.

Don't make me start talking about pizza toppings for the first time ever on PBRev.

meegis · Jul 19, 2014

REVOLUTION said:
Once again misinterpretation is the bane of the Internet.

Don't make me start talking about pizza toppings for the first time ever on PBRev.

Sorry to threadjack, but you JUST posted so Im hoping you catch this. Waiting on a response to my PM from last week.

Also, Canadian (pepperoni, mushroom and bacon)

mwong168 · Jul 20, 2014

Playboy (Bally) - $900 - Oshawa
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-video-games-cons ... nFlag=true

Straight Flush (woodrail) - $700 - Badjeros
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-art-collectibles ... nFlag=true

Evel Knieval - $1500 - London
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-toys-games/londo ... nFlag=true

g-man · Jul 20, 2014

Gotta love the EK lunchbox ~ WITH thermos !

Why do ads where they say "playfield has wear" never show you pics of the playfield ? Hmmmmmmm.... :geek:

mwong168 · Jul 21, 2014

WARLOCK · Jul 21, 2014

I would be in for a container pin or two, but those days are long past I believe.
I would be surprised if anyone really attempts one with the current conditions.

I think it is bad pin karma to post something for sale before you possess it.
I don't have my usual "command" of the english language in "word" form lately.

Sorry, I don't mean to ruffle any feathers, so my sincere apologies gents.
I would rewrite some of those posts if I could, but a tad too late now.

I shall refrain from attempting humour in the written word for the near future.
I shall return to encouragement and will avoid criticism, other than of myself.

All the best gents.
Cheers.

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