Zidware announces "ALICE IN WONDERLAND"!
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Luckydogg420
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Wow. Looks like they at least have an idea of what the finished product will be. More complete then the Dutch pin TBL already. I don't know the names of these pinball legends (other then popadiuk) but seems like they will get this done.
Another old license coming back to life in a new pinball game.
Their feature list has a couple things that jumped out to me, like the art work.
- Full size 1990s arcade-style pinball machine footprint
- Handrawn and inked playfield, backglass, cabinet artwork
- Ground-up new pinball game design and cabinet styling
- Stainless steel brackets, ballguides, hinges and trim
- Metal coin door with dual rejectors, lock and lighting
- Hardwood maple plywood cabinet construction (no mdf)
- Narrow body standard playfield size (21" x 46")
- Metal legs and levelers (custom legs are planned)
- 2 flipper basic player control (maybe 3 if it flows)
- New Patented "edgy" cabinet design built especially
- Free flowing organic ramp designs and metallic levels
- Beautiful Hand Painted / Illustrated Cabinet Artwork
- Custom 64-125 RGB Programmable Light Pixel System
- Planned lower level "Rabbit Hole" Mystery Playfield
- Brilliant Cointaker Premium LED Bulbs / Flashers
- 18" color LCD flat screen PIXELPLAY™ display
- Full size 27" x 24" - 10 color backglass panel
- Chrome ball plunger shooter assembly & Springs
- Beautiful 10+ color silk-screened playfield artwork
- Heavy Stainless Steel Cabinet Trim, Hinges and Decor
- Cabinet LED Light Effects and Illuminated Emblems
- NEW Titanium Hard Coat™ on the playfield
- New Hardware System with Full Capacity Drivers
- Traditional GI Light System with LED bulbs and Sockets
- 6 color silkscreened playfield plastics for brilliant color
- Truss Light Stage Design (Patent Pending)
- 120v-60hz Operation (220v-50hz please inquire)
- 5 Speaker "ZSound" 100W custom pinball sound system
- Aggressive Made-In-Usa Purchasing Selection
- Approximate Weight is 275 Pounds.
Professionally Built Shipping Carton and Packing
- Invisible INK Artwork and Designed Items
1 Million Drawn Lines of Ink - Our Endevour
- Standard Chrome Steel 1-1/16" Pinballs
- Much more!! Check out the featuregrams soon!
Another old license coming back to life in a new pinball game.
Their feature list has a couple things that jumped out to me, like the art work.
- Full size 1990s arcade-style pinball machine footprint
- Handrawn and inked playfield, backglass, cabinet artwork
- Ground-up new pinball game design and cabinet styling
- Stainless steel brackets, ballguides, hinges and trim
- Metal coin door with dual rejectors, lock and lighting
- Hardwood maple plywood cabinet construction (no mdf)
- Narrow body standard playfield size (21" x 46")
- Metal legs and levelers (custom legs are planned)
- 2 flipper basic player control (maybe 3 if it flows)
- New Patented "edgy" cabinet design built especially
- Free flowing organic ramp designs and metallic levels
- Beautiful Hand Painted / Illustrated Cabinet Artwork
- Custom 64-125 RGB Programmable Light Pixel System
- Planned lower level "Rabbit Hole" Mystery Playfield
- Brilliant Cointaker Premium LED Bulbs / Flashers
- 18" color LCD flat screen PIXELPLAY™ display
- Full size 27" x 24" - 10 color backglass panel
- Chrome ball plunger shooter assembly & Springs
- Beautiful 10+ color silk-screened playfield artwork
- Heavy Stainless Steel Cabinet Trim, Hinges and Decor
- Cabinet LED Light Effects and Illuminated Emblems
- NEW Titanium Hard Coat™ on the playfield
- New Hardware System with Full Capacity Drivers
- Traditional GI Light System with LED bulbs and Sockets
- 6 color silkscreened playfield plastics for brilliant color
- Truss Light Stage Design (Patent Pending)
- 120v-60hz Operation (220v-50hz please inquire)
- 5 Speaker "ZSound" 100W custom pinball sound system
- Aggressive Made-In-Usa Purchasing Selection
- Approximate Weight is 275 Pounds.
Professionally Built Shipping Carton and Packing
- Invisible INK Artwork and Designed Items
1 Million Drawn Lines of Ink - Our Endevour
- Standard Chrome Steel 1-1/16" Pinballs
- Much more!! Check out the featuregrams soon!
matthewra
Member
They prefer you phone in - I talked to John; seems like they want all owners to be as involved as possible.
They are sending out info packs on request.
They are sending out info packs on request.
dos.reboot
Well-Known Member
Looks interesting. Love the conceptual art. Want a ST-p, but now have to really think about it. Tougher decision is which pin will leave.
bstock
Active Member
Don't know how it will be received by the entire community but it's an amazing theme if you ask me!
Re: Zidware announces "ALICE IN WONDERLAND"!
I was looking forward to a slick Centaur-esque black and white art package due to the website colour theme (or lack thereof) but the feature list boasts that there will be lots of colour on the playfield.
Quite the tie-in for JPop...having had a hand in building that Alice machine that resided at the Church of the Silver Ball.
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I was looking forward to a slick Centaur-esque black and white art package due to the website colour theme (or lack thereof) but the feature list boasts that there will be lots of colour on the playfield.
Quite the tie-in for JPop...having had a hand in building that Alice machine that resided at the Church of the Silver Ball.
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Golden Graham
Active Member
Have they even made MG or RAZA yet? The game could be great, but finish what's on your plate first; no?
DRANO
Super Member
Golden Graham said:
No, they haven't.
I'm on RAZA and was really expecting to at least see Magic Girl debut before Alice got released.
In any case, this is a very long term project if John's other games are any indication.
I don't think anyone should be putting off buying a ST or any other game this year as a result of this announcement.
I know this is a theme near and dear to JPOPs heart, so you can bet it'll be amazing when done.
Unless he's announcing a super limited run, I'll be happy to wait and see.
dos.reboot
Well-Known Member
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Was thinking the same thing.
If he uses colour sparingly in some key spots that could be equally cool. In any case, I hope the art stays true to the concept and doesn't end up looking like a slick comic book.
spiroagnew said:
Was thinking the same thing.
If he uses colour sparingly in some key spots that could be equally cool. In any case, I hope the art stays true to the concept and doesn't end up looking like a slick comic book.
As a RAZA buyer I'm not thrilled that he's taking money and orders on game 3 when the first 2 aren't completed, and from what we know aren't even close with no completion date even on the table. At least Jersey Jack had WOZ prototypes out there when the Hobbit offer came up.
I would have rathered he work on Alice on his own, finish the other games, then take orders for Alice which would still be a year or 2 down the road.
The other big variable that's been a concern of every MG/RAZA buyer I've spoken with and the thing we've seen next to nothing about is the software/rules of his games. A million brush strokes of art is great, but I want a great playing game, not a piece of modern art that sits in the corner.
I'm going to ride it out with my RAZA, but I'm going to have to see some real solid prototypes at the least until I commit to another jpop project.
I would have rathered he work on Alice on his own, finish the other games, then take orders for Alice which would still be a year or 2 down the road.
The other big variable that's been a concern of every MG/RAZA buyer I've spoken with and the thing we've seen next to nothing about is the software/rules of his games. A million brush strokes of art is great, but I want a great playing game, not a piece of modern art that sits in the corner.
I'm going to ride it out with my RAZA, but I'm going to have to see some real solid prototypes at the least until I commit to another jpop project.
tim.sanderson
Active Member
bstock
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tim.sanderson
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dos.reboot
Well-Known Member
Ack, I thought raza was somewhat close to completion but the disclosure agreement prevented buyers from saying anything.
Seems like everytime a boutique announces one pin, the others try to one-up them with their own announcment. Or maybe it's just coincidence.
Seems like everytime a boutique announces one pin, the others try to one-up them with their own announcment. Or maybe it's just coincidence.
DRANO
Super Member
The NDA we signed doesn't prevent owners from discussing completion to the best of my knowledge.
RAZA is JPOPs 2nd game and no, it's not near completion.
We've seen snippets of whitewoods, nearly complete cabinets and various drawings and test mechanisms.
If have to assume late 2014 would be the earliest we'll see anything near final.
Magic Girl is his first design with his new company. Something like 19 units... and even that doesn't seem to be near finished yet. At least that's the rumour. I'm not a buyer on MG.
RAZA is JPOPs 2nd game and no, it's not near completion.
We've seen snippets of whitewoods, nearly complete cabinets and various drawings and test mechanisms.
If have to assume late 2014 would be the earliest we'll see anything near final.
Magic Girl is his first design with his new company. Something like 19 units... and even that doesn't seem to be near finished yet. At least that's the rumour. I'm not a buyer on MG.
Chris Bardon
Well-Known Member
So do we know what the final price will be? $1895 deposit, but nothing beyond that.
Definitely sounds like an interesting theme/design, and he definitely has an aesthetic that he's going for. Probably not my favourite visualization of Alice in Wonderland (I think the Ralph Steadman version is pretty neat), but definitely the classic. Of course, this says nothing about how the game will actually play, and that's a lot to drop on potential (again, especially when Magic Girl hasn't shipped yet). I'm really looking forward to trying one of these games though, and hopefully once they're out there they turn out to be great. I'd just like to be able to see a complete product, play the game, and then decide if I want to own it.
Definitely sounds like an interesting theme/design, and he definitely has an aesthetic that he's going for. Probably not my favourite visualization of Alice in Wonderland (I think the Ralph Steadman version is pretty neat), but definitely the classic. Of course, this says nothing about how the game will actually play, and that's a lot to drop on potential (again, especially when Magic Girl hasn't shipped yet). I'm really looking forward to trying one of these games though, and hopefully once they're out there they turn out to be great. I'd just like to be able to see a complete product, play the game, and then decide if I want to own it.