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Yeah, the hotel analogy only works to prop up the 'efficient business' narrative. Hospitals don't compete for occupancy.

But if that's the game, then a better comparison is Toronto during a Taylor Swift concert night when occupancy is closer to capacity and the want becomes a NEED. Consider the 1 night cost of a simple Holiday Inn. There's that ole' unfettered capitalism at work!

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Besides, I wouldn't want a minimum wage to ensure my room is free of germs. They deserve way more than that.
The property is already government owned, that's my point. Patients won't care if Taylor Swift is in town. This is Interesting, so $850 extra a day justifies a full cleaning that's done when the patient leaves after 2 months? Ok. I watched it go down with my own eyes. I donated the $125 a day to the hospital, but I'm not paying what they charge the Government. Sorry, not happening.
 
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Hospital rooms have always been more expensive that hotels. That's a terrible comparison. I was in the hospital for over a week back in 2018 and I remember the room being $800+ dollars. If it's still under $1K nearly 7 years later I'd say that's cheap.

Hospital room costs cover more than just daily housekeeping. When was the last time you saw a hotel with an MRI, or had to do blood work or had a nurse check in on you every hour. I'm bewildered that this comparison was even made.

I feel like I'm talking to someone that would rather have the medical system the USA uses than Canada's free health care. If the health issues you are dealing with is non-urgent then you will be triaged as such and you will have to wait. If you have a real emergency you will be admitted in seconds. I spent 10 hours at the QCH a couple weeks ago. My son injured himself playing rugby. Waiting 10 hours sucked, but we were the lowest urgency in the waiting room. I expected to wait.

Wait times will only get better with more funding and better paid medical staff.
 

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This is what they bill the government for the room, nothing more..and the property is government owed already. l looked into it and was shocked. Everything else, all services are all added on top of this price. You need something, it gets added.
Ok, looks like everyone thinks it's super cheap, a deal as fifty mentioned. I'd sleep on a toilet before paying $985 a night for a bed, but that's just me I guess. That could feed a family for a whole month.

What's everyone think about the NDP and the Liberals having a secret meeting to move the election by 3 days out so they can get a $120 million pension? They're worried about getting voted out before reaching the deadline. From what I read.
 
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Did your parents play dribble the baby with you when you were a kid? Learn to actually read the article. Maybe even learn to look back at previous years? 2022, Canada was 3rd on this Berkshire list.

I honestly expected the link you posted to be some conspiracy nonsense website. I had to read the article multiple times trying to figure out what the fuck you were complaining about. A more in-depth article about the list, and has more breakdowns on how they reach their conclusions: https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurab...t-countries-to-travel-ranked-in-a-new-report/

You talk about "since 2015" in another post, yet this list has only been around 2018. Canada is only one of 8 countries to be in the top 10 every year since it was introduced.

Your last couple brain cells are in a PvP battle, and they're having trouble finding each other to do battle.
 
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hey you with the face

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Did your parents play dribble the baby with you when you were a kid? Learn to actually read the article. Maybe even learn to look back at previous years? 2022, Canada was 3rd on this Berkshire list.

I honestly expected the link you posted to be some conspiracy nonsense website. I had to read the article multiple times trying to figure out what the fuck you were complaining about. A more in-depth article about the list, and has more breakdowns on how they reach their conclusions: https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurab...t-countries-to-travel-ranked-in-a-new-report/

You talk about "since 2015" in another post, yet this list has only been around 2018. Canada is only one of 8 countries to be in the top 10 every year since it was introduced.

Your last couple brain cells are in a PvP battle, and they're having trouble finding each other to do battle.
We've got a lovely gentleman here, spread the love, no matter what your beliefs are.. we're all neighbors. thank you for all of the sweet compliments.

Mean while, a buddy saw this go down. Listen to the people in the recording, they're in absolute shock, horrified.. also my Friends were ransacked right in front of the kids, they are still beside themselves, nightmares galore..I feel so bad for them. Any therapist here got a rough estimate on the mental damage? PM me, thanks. 5 more years of Trudeau and will just be numb to it.. another day in Canada. Mark this post.
P.s favorite part is when a Canadian patriot trips up the thug, video below.
 
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In case you missed it, What's everyone think about the NDP and the Liberals having a secret meeting to move the election by 3 days out so they can get a $120 million pension? They're worried about getting voted out before reaching the deadline. From what I read.

And we now have a $54 billion deficit.
Another $50 billion is being sent to Ukraine to be laundered.
$134 billion in gold is gone, zero gold left.

How many people here knew about all of this? $900 billion added in debt over 9 years, they have been robbing us none stop.
 
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We've got a lovely gentleman here, spread the love, no matter what your beliefs are.. we're all neighbors. thank you for all of the sweet compliments.

Mean while, a buddy saw this go down. Listen to the people in the recording, they're in absolute shock, horrified.. also my Friends were ransacked right in front of the kids, they are still beside themselves, nightmares galore..I feel so bad for them. Any therapist here got a rough estimate on the mental damage? PM me, thanks. 5 more years of Trudeau and will just be numb to it.. another day in Canada. Mark this post.
P.s favorite part is when a Canadian patriot trips up the thug, video below.
Aww... you think single things like that will go away under a new gov't. You're amazingly naive. You also don't think they happen in Texas.
 

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What's everyone think about the NDP and the Liberals having a secret meeting to move the election by 3 days out so they can get a $120 million pension? They're worried about getting voted out before reaching the deadline. From what I read.
I think it's pretty reasonable to not deny members of parliament pensions because they would miss a day or two to hit the 6 year mark. You don't think they deserve pensions?
 

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And there it is, NDP/Liberal uniparty still blaming Harper after 10 years, Justin does it all the time. Are you really ok with the current direction of this new Canadian communist country (look at bill C-63 among others)? Uncontrollable immigration to the extreme, out of control Liberal/NDP spending and mismanagement, Woke and bizarre trans/SOGI school agendas, insane daily corruptions and scandals, multiple human rights violations by Trudeau, and just some of the worst lying, mentally unstable and unaccountable Liberal MP's/Chinese spy's I have ever seen, and a legal system that greatly favors the criminals over the victims. And absolute clown show that needs to go in the dust bin of history. Certainly one of the worst governments Canada has ever seen since Pierre Trudeau nearly destroyed Canada in the '80's. I wont even get started on the climate insanity, but VW just dump their EV production, so how much did Trudeau waste on that failed project?
It is so time for a change, how about a carbon tax election and let the people decide rather than the current dictator that refuses to step down. Currently we have the NDP extorting Trudeau so he can remain in power just a little bit longer. The oppositions job is to oppose the leadership, not make clandestine backdoor deals to maintain and keep our failed Castro government in power. Even his own party doesn't want fancy socks anymore.
 

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If you think that's bad, you should have seen Harper's deficit the last time the Cons were in power. (Please remember to adjust for inflation and capita before comparing...)
150 years, Canadian debt hit $650. Billion in 2015. Closing in on 1.5 trillion now and the juice is running right into Trudeaus friends and his dad's friends pockets. It's you're money, I'll be living tax free in Texas.

Pension wise, I don't think they deserve it, rewarded when they have turned Canada into an absolute disaster financially, criminally.
 
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And there it is, NDP/Liberal uniparty still blaming Harper after 10 years, Justin does it all the time. Are you really ok with the current direction of this new Canadian communist country (look at bill C-63 among others)? Uncontrollable immigration to the extreme, out of control Liberal/NDP spending and mismanagement, Woke and bizarre trans/SOGI school agendas, insane daily corruptions and scandals, multiple human rights violations by Trudeau, and just some of the worst lying, mentally unstable and unaccountable Liberal MP's/Chinese spy's I have ever seen, and a legal system that greatly favors the criminals over the victims. And absolute clown show that needs to go in the dust bin of history. Certainly one of the worst governments Canada has ever seen since Pierre Trudeau nearly destroyed Canada in the '80's. I wont even get started on the climate insanity, but VW just dump their EV production, so how much did Trudeau waste on that failed project?
It is so time for a change, how about a carbon tax election and let the people decide rather than the current dictator that refuses to step down. Currently we have the NDP extorting Trudeau so he can remain in power just a little bit longer. The oppositions job is to oppose the leadership, not make clandestine backdoor deals to maintain and keep our failed Castro government in power. Even his own party doesn't want fancy socks anymore.
Pretty much all your rambling is just crazy talk not worth a debate.

But I'll bite on the "carbon tax election and let the people decide". Please let me know what Poilievre's alternative to the carbon tax is to meet Canada's Paris accord obligations. That's right, he doesn't have one. Even if the cons get elected, they won't be able to kill the carbon tax, he's lying.

What plan do you support to reduce co2 emissions?
 

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I think it's pretty reasonable to not deny members of parliament pensions because they would miss a day or two to hit the 6 year mark. You don't think they deserve pensions?
He's spouting conspiracy nonsense anyway. He lives in a conspiracy world. Social media is to blame tbh, algorithms quickly start sending the same type of thing over and over to a person. They're not a good thing at all for people.
 
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