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Hydrogen is a non-starter for now, and that wouldn't replace the carbon tax for industry co2 emissions.

As your friend Musk put it, hydrogen is "mind-bogglingly stupid".
For cars, yes. Rigs, no. He's held off on rig production. If battery tech gets lighter, more efficient, instant charging..but we're along way from that.
 

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Since conspiracies we're brought up, what do you guys think of this? Just for fun, so don't freak out. Hahaha
NDP is apparently members of the WEF now too.


From the WEF website, pulled down since.


Trump apparently didn't comply.


Most people here think it's B.S, but I find it interesting.
 
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For cars, yes. Rigs, no. He's held off on rig production. If battery tech gets lighter, more efficient, instant charging..but we're along way from that.
Rigs only represent 5-6% of co2 emissions, so we're not going to be replacing carbon tax with that, especially since green hydrogen is likely to cost way more than diesel even with the carbon tax, and more than hydrogen made from natural gas.
 

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If they were to implement such a crazy thing, they would need one massive negative world event.
The Conservatives and the Block seem to keep voting against that bill.
 

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Wendy's is closing 140 locations, economy is doing so great, numbers don't lie right? Hahaha. It's just a conspiracy, look away.
You must only read headlines, or you get your information from Twitter. As mdeslaur pointed out, it's a net gain for Wendy's. Again, you need to actually read the articles.

That said, I won't be surprised when fast food restaurants start closing - prices at fast food places have gone up far more than inflation in the last 10 years.

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They've gotten greedy, I think it was McDonalds that talked about the fact that they may have raised prices too much and need to be "careful" about future price increases. (or it might have been the snack food companies, they've done the same thing).

I know I like Taco Bell, and I refuse to get anything from there anymore. I can damn near get a meal from a real restaurant for the same price. The food will be far better.
 

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You must only read headlines, or you get your information from Twitter. As mdeslaur pointed out, it's a net gain for Wendy's. Again, you need to actually read the articles.

That said, I won't be surprised when fast food restaurants start closing - prices at fast food places have gone up far more than inflation in the last 10 years.

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They've gotten greedy, I think it was McDonalds that talked about the fact that they may have raised prices too much and need to be "careful" about future price increases. (or it might have been the snack food companies, they've done the same thing).

I know I like Taco Bell, and I refuse to get anything from there anymore. I can damn near get a meal from a real restaurant for the same price. The food will be far better.
True, I didn't read up on everything they are doing.. Still gonna effect some lives I'm sure, but that point went out the window.
 

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Pretty much all your rambling is just crazy talk not worth a debate.

But I'll bite on the "carbon tax election and let the people decide". Please let me know what Poilievre's alternative to the carbon tax is to meet Canada's Paris accord obligations. That's right, he doesn't have one. Even if the cons get elected, they won't be able to kill the carbon tax, he's lying.

What plan do you support to reduce co2 emissions?
In a world where canada produces about 1.5% of the global polution it is pointless to destroy our economy and burden the population with heavy taxes if the third world developing countries are not doing their part, China produces about 60 % of the worlds poultion, and Canada sells them record amouts of coal to help with that. The EV market is nothing more than a novelty car market. All you get with an EV besides high price, is charge anxiety.
You are just another of those failed Liberals. Your still holding a torch for Justine. Thats nice.
You can't address most of my comment and resort to canceling like the typical weak LIberal, and fill your comment with Liberal word salad, so piss off.
Mass immigration is real knucklehead, and Trudeau has flooded this country with unvetted third world wonders, yet you don't believe that and the real numbers, and call me crazy for addressing bad Liberal policies. Have you even looked at what Bill C-63 does?
You better stick to your fantasy rainbow world where the poll numbers are not real and Trudeau is loved by everyone.
The countless scandals and corruption, and the MP traitor spys are real, BTW.
 

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In a world where canada produces about 1.5% of the global polution it is pointless to destroy our economy and burden the population with heavy taxes if the third world developing countries are not doing their part, China produces about 60 % of the worlds poultion, and Canada sells them record amouts of coal to help with that. The EV market is nothing more than a novelty car market. All you get with an EV besides high price, is charge anxiety.
You are just another of those failed Liberals. Your still holding a torch for Justine. Thats nice.
You can't address most of my comment and resort to canceling like the typical weak LIberal, and fill your comment with Liberal word salad, so piss off.
Mass immigration is real knucklehead, and Trudeau has flooded this country with unvetted third world wonders, yet you don't believe that and the real numbers, and call me crazy for addressing bad Liberal policies. Have you even looked at what Bill C-63 does?
You better stick to your fantasy rainbow world where the poll numbers are not real and Trudeau is loved by everyone.
The countless scandals and corruption, and the MP traitor spys are real, BTW.

Ok, if you really want me to debate all your wrong facts, here it goes. First of all, co2 emissions and pollution isn't the same thing, get your facts straight.

While Canada does only produce 1.5% of global co2 emissions, that puts us in 10th place out of all the countries. When you look at emissions per capita, we're second worst offender after Saudi Arabia. The "third world countries" you are talking about have all also signed up to the Paris accord and have promised to reduce their emissions too. China doesn't produce 60% of the world's co2 emissions (you said pollution there, so I think you're confusing the two things), it produced about 34%, but per capita is way below Canada, and is decreasing. There's no evidence the carbon tax is "destroying the economy".

Contrary to your statement that the EV market is "a novelty car market", you'll be surprised to know that 2Q 2024 was another record-breaker for Canada, with 20% of all new cars sold now being EV and Hybrid. The price difference between EV and Gas cars is rapidly decreasing and quickly pays for itself with the reduced fuel and maintenance costs. As for charge anxiety, it quickly dissipates once owners notice that they charge at home and rarely anywhere else.

Oh, you called him Justine instead of Justin, wow, how clever.

Yes, there are a lot of immigrants. After borders were closed for covid, the immigration rate had dropped to 0.49%, so an adjustment was necessary to make sure there are enough workers to fill the available jobs. The biggest sector of activity for immigrants to Canada is in health care, which represents 11% of them. Are those the "unvetted third world wonders" you are talking about?

Yes, I have read bill C-63, and I agree with it. It's about time we have proper laws to make sure online platforms are responsible for filtering child porn, hate content, and terrorism.

I can assure you I don't live in a rainbow fantasy world, and I don't think Trudeau is loved by everyone, including me. I just think the conservatives are much much worse. The biggest scandal right now is why Poilievre refuses to get his security clearance. Everyone knows he's involved in foreign interference, and he's just delaying the inevitable: when the information will come out and he will have to step down.
 
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I don't know if Pierre is a god sent PM, neither do you. But it is clear that Trudeau needs to go now and most of the Liberal Mp's will be gone next election as well, as testimony to the terrible job they are doing. The Liberal party has lost the plot, not sure if they ever had it.
Regarding Bill C-63, you only described half the bill, much of which already exists as laws, you left out the communist half of this bill which is more Justin's intentions. There is much more it than what you describe.
The fact that you encourage and support Trudeau's attacks on freedom of speech tells me TruAnon is strong with you.

Justin has no choice than to drop immigration from the out of control levels they had, and it still out paces housing development. But the largest part of the problem is the unvetted "Student" and visas and foreign works numbers, way beyond any previous governments, and they number in the millions. Just the worst MP's running that immigration department, even Sean F admitted he lost a million people and Mark is a babbling fool that has no idea what he is talking about. The incompetency is beyond with these Liberals. Don't even get me started with Twitchy McFreakland.

Justine better fits his fem demeanor? Sorry that you are so offended by everything I joke about.

You seem to not understand that Pierre getting the security clearance is a gag order, and he would not be allowed to ever speak of it or expose more of the mostly traitor Liberals currently in government. I would like to know, and probable most voters would like to know if they are electing a Chinese spy's or not, shouldn't handling these type of security risks be handled in a serious fashion as the PM has done nothing about the rampant Chinese infiltrations in this country.
Trudeau constantly harping about clearance is BS, he wants to gag Pierre and keep him from exposing the corrupt Liberals which probably includes Trudeau. Does it make sense now?
Here watch something educational,

As far as climate bedwetting, I believe that climate changes all the time, and drinking from paper straws and paper bread tags is pointless when virtually everything in the grocery store is wrapped in plastic, and taxing the guts out of Canadians is also not the answer to climate extremists and activists. All I have seen is Trudeau waste billions on futile plans that go nowhere.
The only reason we are still talking about this useless failed and wacko government, is because he bought out Jughead with his people, mass Punjabi immigration into Canada. This NDP opposition is extorting the minority Liberals for competency votes, and holding Canada hostage when Trudeau should have been gone by now, or at least until Jugheads pension comes up.
 

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I still think it's insane when 2 parties can come together and override what the Canadian voters voted for. The Canadian people didn't vote for them, wild.
Wow, so Bill C 63 basically says I can get $20,000 from Smokezz! I'm down, pass the bill! Just kidding Smoke, I would never.. hope it raises some eyebrows tho. We are all Canadians, we will all fight for each others rights, no matter what your party beliefs are. Even from Texas.
 
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mdeslaur

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I don't know if Pierre is a god sent PM, neither do you.
I'm just relying on his abysmal track record, and the fact that he has no viable solutions to the problems we're facing, and when he does, it's actually to benefit big companies and rich people.

But it is clear that Trudeau needs to go now and most of the Liberal Mp's will be gone next election as well, as testimony to the terrible job they are doing. The Liberal party has lost the plot, not sure if they ever had it.
It's clear to you.

Regarding Bill C-63, you only described half the bill, much of which already exists as laws, you left out the communist half of this bill which is more Justin's intentions. There is much more it than what you describe.
The fact that you encourage and support Trudeau's attacks on freedom of speech tells me TruAnon is strong with you.
I'm not sure which part of Bill C-63 you are referring to as "communist". Do you even know what that word means? And seriously, showing me a video from the american-funded covid-denying JCCF isn't helping your cause. They are upset because people could get in trouble for saying hate speech on the Internet? THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT. The bill clearly defines hate speech as pertaining to the canadian human rights act, and specifically states it doesn't apply to speech that "expresses disdain or dislike or it discredits, humiliates, hurts or offends".

Justin has no choice than to drop immigration from the out of control levels they had, and it still out paces housing development. But the largest part of the problem is the unvetted "Student" and visas and foreign works numbers, way beyond any previous governments, and they number in the millions.
Yes, students and temporary workers weren't regulated before, and they climbed to almost double in the past two years. This is why they added them to the legislation that also covers permanent resident status. This should limit immigrants to 5%, which hopefully should be enough so that canadian businesses can still get qualified workers, while the housing crisis is fixed. Is that number acceptable to you? What number are the conservatives comfortable with?

Just the worst MP's running that immigration department, even Sean F admitted he lost a million people and Mark is a babbling fool that has no idea what he is talking about. The incompetency is beyond with these Liberals. Don't even get me started with Twitchy McFreakland.
Sounds like you don't like them for some reason.

Justine better fits his fem demeanor? Sorry that you are so offended by everything I joke about.
I'm not offended, I'm just ashamed for you.

You seem to not understand that Pierre getting the security clearance is a gag order, and he would not be allowed to ever speak of it or expose more of the mostly traitor Liberals currently in government. I would like to know, and probable most voters would like to know if they are electing a Chinese spy's or not, shouldn't handling these type of security risks be handled in a serious fashion as the PM has done nothing about the rampant Chinese infiltrations in this country.

This is the dumbest cop-out ever. You're saying he's better off not knowing the information at all? Seriously, he's hiding.
Trudeau constantly harping about clearance is BS, he wants to gag Pierre and keep him from exposing the corrupt Liberals which probably includes Trudeau. Does it make sense now?
Lol, nope. I'll give you a hint: usually when Russia and China want to influence elections, they don't try and get the leftist parties in.

Here watch something educational,
That was funny. My parents have dumb opinions on stuff too. I should buy them a camera.

When Poilievre says he wants to cut GST on new houses, it's so large companies and rich people can buy more housing as investment properties. It does nothing to solve the housing crisis. But to folks who know nothing about how the economy works, it sounds like a good idea.

As far as climate bedwetting, I believe that climate changes all the time, and drinking from paper straws and paper bread tags is pointless when virtually everything in the grocery store is wrapped in plastic, and taxing the guts out of Canadians is also not the answer to climate extremists and activists. All I have seen is Trudeau waste billions on futile plans that go nowhere.
Oh, so you're switching this debate from co2 to plastic pollution. Ok, yes, I think banning straws is pointless as a single measure. It was meant as a long series of measures to ban more and more single use plastic. In that sense, I do think the Liberal government has failed, they should have continued and banned more single-use plastic.

What is the conservatives plan to tackle plastic pollution? What's yours?

The only reason we are still talking about this useless failed and wacko government, is because he bought out Jughead with his people, mass Punjabi immigration into Canada. This NDP opposition is extorting the minority Liberals for competency votes, and holding Canada hostage when Trudeau should have been gone by now, or at least until Jugheads pension comes up.
lol, ok.
 
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The mental gymnastics you do just to say it's all bad.
So I had some time to dig into this, they are actually closing 240 Wendy stores that aren't performing well and ”say" they are opening some in different locations. The vibe I'm getting, the CEO is trying to avoid a stock crash, panic.
Buffet now has $325 billion sold stock to cash.
 
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mdeslaur

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I still think it's insane when 2 parties can come together and override what the Canadian voters voted for. The Canadian people didn't vote for them, wild.
Didn't vote for them? Do you know how voting works?
Wow, so Bill C 63 basically says I can get $20,000 from Smokezz! I'm down, pass the bill! Just kidding Smoke, I would never.. hope it raises some eyebrows tho.
In which way did Smokezz violate your human rights?

We are all Canadians, we will all fight for each others rights, no matter what your party beliefs are. Even from Texas.
Exactly, which is why I think C-63 is a good idea, to protect each other's rights.