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FS "Not Mine" Pinball Machines For Sale

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jeff

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RE: 2 pinbots, 1 magnotron

To all those who think they are smart enough to know who I am ... you're not

I'm NOT Mike, but I do know who the guy is you are talking about.

The reason the machines are being relisted from back in April is that I was being nice and held them for others ... after 3 months of promising to pick them up, they never showed so that is why they are back online. I've had nearly 15 different pins in my collection over the years for personal use and I'm NOT a scammer ... I'm just at the point where I don't have the time or patience to repair them anymore. When someone gets a machine off of me they know everything I know ... no surprises. I do not buy/sell for profit ... I'm a gamer.



quarter grabber .... PLEASE STOP YOUR LIES BASED ON INCOMPLETE INFORMATION AND SPECULATION

brad808 ... please remove all my personal info from your post, I don't like spambots sending me crap


It really sucks having to sign up for a board just to defend your honour from those who THINK they know what they are talking about.
 
underachiever

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jeff said:
RE: 2 pinbots, 1 magnotron

To all those who think they are smart enough to know who I am ... you're not

I'm NOT Mike, but I do know who the guy is you are talking about.

The reason the machines are being relisted from back in April is that I was being nice and held them for others ... after 3 months of promising to pick them up, they never showed so that is why they are back online. I've had nearly 15 different pins in my collection over the years for personal use and I'm NOT a scammer ... I'm just at the point where I don't have the time or patience to repair them anymore. When someone gets a machine off of me they know everything I know ... no surprises. I do not buy/sell for profit ... I'm a gamer.



quarter grabber .... PLEASE STOP YOUR LIES BASED ON INCOMPLETE INFORMATION AND SPECULATION

brad808 ... please remove all my personal info from your post, I don't like spambots sending me crap
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It really sucks having to sign up for a board just to defend your honour from those who THINK they know what they are talking about
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I think if you wanted to stop being accused of being the ultimate scammer "Mark Uttley/Stephen Anderson" or whatever name he goes by now, all you would have to do is post lots of photos of each machine you are selling to show the quality and worth of the games. You are trying to sell 3 machines with only 2 photos for top dollar and live in the suspected area of a known scammer - seems somewhat suspicious. That may be why you are being suspected of being someone you may/may not be.


Just my opinion as I have no interest in those machines.
 
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jeff

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everyone who's asked for them has had pictures sent to them (over 100 Meg worth. I take lots of pics) ... and those who are serious see them in person with an offer that is fair.
I am NOT Mark Uttley/Stephen Anderson/Mike or whomever you guys think I am ... I know who you are thinking of as his shop is down the street. Again, I AM NOT HIM.

Please stop the misinformation campaign against me
 
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quarter grabber

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jeff said:
RE: 2 pinbots, 1 magnotron

To all those who think they are smart enough to know who I am ... you're not

I'm NOT Mike, but I do know who the guy is you are talking about.

The reason the machines are being relisted from back in April is that I was being nice and held them for others ... after 3 months of promising to pick them up, they never showed so that is why they are back online. I've had nearly 15 different pins in my collection over the years for personal use and I'm NOT a scammer ... I'm just at the point where I don't have the time or patience to repair them anymore. When someone gets a machine off of me they know everything I know ... no surprises. I do not buy/sell for profit ... I'm a gamer.



quarter grabber .... PLEASE STOP YOUR LIES BASED ON INCOMPLETE INFORMATION AND SPECULATION

brad808 ... please remove all my personal info from your post, I don't like spambots sending me crap


It really sucks having to sign up for a board just to defend your honour from those who THINK they know what they are talking about.
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The "Mike" guy that happens to live in the same town as you also had two pin.bots and a magnetron he tried to sell me. Weird coincidence I guess?
 
g-man

g-man

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Is it possible that Mr Anderson/Uttley is just "piggybacking" on this fellows ad, and if he hooks a big fish then he will buy the machines and flip them for a profit ?

One unfortunate factoid for this fellow is that part of Mr Anderson's/Uttley's persona is that he is somewhat delusional and will actually deny things that you know to be fact. He will never ever admit guilt. However, if this fellow was Mr Anderson/Uttley, we would likely have heard numerous expletives by now.
 
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jeff

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g-man said:
Is it possible that Mr Anderson/Uttley is just "piggybacking" on this fellows ad, and if he hooks a big fish then he will buy the machines and flip them for a profit ?

One unfortunate factoid for this fellow is that part of Mr Anderson's/Uttley's persona is that he is somewhat delusional and will actually deny things that you know to be fact. He will never ever admit guilt. However, if this fellow was Mr Anderson/Uttley, we would likely have heard numerous expletives by now.
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If he is piggybacking then I would like to know and/or see the ad so I can put a disclaimer about it in my own ad. And a further coincidence is that I received a reply this morning from some guy named "Mike" who sent me a low-ball offer for the three. I would like to get to the bottom of this. If someone can confirm his email then PM me

I've done my best to contact via PM all those who have been spreading these falsehoods because this particular thread shouldn't be for me to defend myself against false accusations. I've even contacted the Administrator/Moderator in regards to some of this.

As for the comment about expletives ... trust me, I'm doing my best to stay as civilized as possible. Yelling, screaming and swearing generally gets you nowhere and shows disrespect for others. I'm not that type of guy.

I would really appreciate if you guys worked with me and not against me
Thanks
 
g-man

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So it is looking more and more like someone might be attempting to presell your machines.

Mind you, lowball offers are not strictly the modus operandi of fraudsters. There are lots of cheap a$$ people on this site ! :lol:
 
brad808

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Re: "Not Mine" Pinball Machines For Sale

I will say that when I spoke to Jeff in April about the pinbots that I was sent numerous pictures.

Jeff can you clarify if the machines are in fact yours then? When we spoke previously you stated you were listing them for a friend.

Sent from my Nexus 4
 
underachiever

underachiever

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jeff said:
everyone who's asked for them has had pictures sent to them (over 100 Meg worth. I take lots of pics) ... and those who are serious see them in person with an offer that is fair.
I am NOT Mark Uttley/Stephen Anderson/Mike or whomever you guys think I am ... I know who you are thinking of as his shop is down the street. Again, I AM NOT HIM.
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I have not said you were the infamous person of pinball shame, and I feel really bad for you if you do live down the street from this 'ass'. The point of my reply to this thread was that I have seen people post 5 or 6 pictures of a piece of furniture that they are trying to sell for $100 or less on Kijiji. You post 2 crappy pics for 3 pins that you are asking near the top of the market value for. I'm not sure if you were just being lazy and wanted to have to send out a million pics via email, or you just didn't get around to it. It just made your ad 'look' suspicious. Post ads however you feel will help you sell your product the best way. You would have probably not had any problems from anyone here if there had been 4 or 5 pics/ per machine in your Kijiji ad. Limited pictures and limited info or pics from the web of 'similar' machines is definitely the M.O. of 'Mr. Infamous'. Seeing things from our point of view would most likely help you not to be mistaken for 'him' in the future.

That is all.
Good luck on your sale.
 
Luckydogg420

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Vengeance said:
Frontier & Party Animal - $200 - Sault Ste Marie
http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell ... Z509747148

If anyone got that Frontier, let me know ill buy it off you right now, don't care if you ask more then the $200 you paid for it, I've been looking forever for a Frontier
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They went quick. I wanted to look at them today, but I missed out... To bad too, I'm already in Sudbury. That's 1/2 way for me
 
g-man

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Not as quick as I would have thought. Figured someone would nab them yesterday.

That sucks, Luckydogg. ( edit: unluckydogg) Would have been a much quicker trip from Sudbury. Bummer.
 
REVOLUTION

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Jeff, apologies for the misunderstanding. Thank you for logging in and clarifying. A few of us have been burned by scammers (myself included) in the past and so we're just trying to look out for everyone. I hope you understand

- B
 
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jeff

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REVOLUTION said:
Jeff, apologies for the misunderstanding. Thank you for logging in and clarifying. A few of us have been burned by scammers (myself included) in the past and so we're just trying to look out for everyone. I hope you understand

- B
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Thank you you for your patience and understanding.

It appears that brad808 has been to my place to look at them before when I had 8 machines there. He was told the full history of the machines and why I stored them for a friend for close to 10 years (he would have had them in a leaky barn). Lots of pics were sent before anyone ever got my address to look at them because gas ain't cheap.

Anyways, let me say thanks to REVOLUTION for allowing me to post to defend myself against false accusations. I believe we've arrived at a truth to the matter and I shouldn't need to defend myself against speculation and poor conclusions anymore.
Thx
jeff
 
brad808

brad808

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I have never been to your place we simply sent a few emails back and forth so I've never met you in person. I just remember in an email you mentioned that you were listing for a friend and had to confirm prices with him before anything was sold.
 
meegis

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jeff said:
It appears that brad808 has been to my place to look at them before when I had 8 machines there. He was told the full history of the machines and why I stored them for a friend for close to 10 years (he would have had them in a leaky barn). Lots of pics were sent before anyone ever got my address to look at them because gas ain't cheap.

Thx
jeff
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brad808 said:
I have never been to your place we simply sent a few emails back and forth so I've never met you in person. I just remember in an email you mentioned that you were listing for a friend and had to confirm prices with him before anything was sold.
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:FP:
 
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